Tuesday, June 9, 2026

Krokbragd and bandweaving are not the same!

I think I confused a lot of blogistas by taking a break from bandweaving and trying out krokbragd. They're completely different forms and don't intersect. Both are lovely and need skill and practice, and they're not interchangeable. 

But it looked as if they're related because I plunged into one in the middle of the other, with an added trip into weaving on, breaking,  and repairing, a frame loom.

Bandweaving has long warp (lengthwise) threads organized into a color pattern, using a long weft thread on a shuttle, and picking up different threads to create the design. Very little finishing is required. The pattern shows on both sides, as a reversed image.

Krokbragd, however, uses multiple short weft (crosswise) threads, and a massive amount of finishing is needed, see pictures of completed latest small work, and the pattern is on the front only. The back is filled with woven in threads.



Back of the finished piece and all the trimmed off ends after the weaving in is done. Every pick (row) needs one or more ends woven in and trimmed. 


Front of finished piece. I'm still working on a possible bandweaving that will use a flower motif like this. It's tricky, doesn't translate easily.

I like both and I want to pursue bandweaving further. You can see how krokbragd doesn't translate into bands or belts, and how bandweaving does.   And how krokbragd can be used in much wider widths than I've done with my learning pieces, and how narrow patterned bandweaving can't. 

Today was a great Tuesday knitting group, so much so that someone came and shut our door on us because we were noisy. We had knitting, crochet, weaving, braiding and, drumroll, embroidery!




Booties for baby due any minute 


Fun fur yarn donated to another member 


Familiar weavings 


Squares for the upcoming community granny square wall piece 


This is Estonian knitting, incorporating weaving 

Chat ranged over the madeleines one vacation returner brought us from Paris, techniques of weaving, knitting, and braiding, high school reunions, the Xerces society, master gardeners, Jack Russell terriers, cats as home nurses, the community granny square project, fun fur yarn, TV animal actors, and more.

Then home to afternoon tea with madeleines, and Textiles and Tea, with Thomas Victor.

He's a weaver dedicated to the finest most heirloom-worthy thread, alpaca singles, dyed and woven into scarves. He has rebuilt looms to fit his needs, including a jacquard loom with hundreds of warp threads. 









This piece is about 15"x12", though it looks much bigger 


Here he is, very interesting, fearless dyer and weaver. 

Another great Tuesday, happy day everyone. Hotter days to come, and while I'm sheltering indoors, I'll be thinking about my next project. 

Everything is tidied away now, so as to have a clear space, mentally and physically, then I'll bring out what I need for the next project once I know what it is. 

Clear up between projects then you won't get distracted by the last one.

Meanwhile, smart baby story:

Many years ago, when Handsome Son was about three months old, he was sitting on my arm at the front door as a friend and her baby were leaving. 

I'd turned so the sun was behind us, not in his eyes, and our shadows fell on the step. He held out his hand and flexed his fingers. Then he did it again, watching his shadow hand. Then he looked up at the sun, back to his hand then at the ground,  then flexed his fingers again. 

My friend, a Cambridge physicist, said look at that thinking, he analyzed the sequence, he understood the light source, it's amazing!  Which I guess it was. And I wonder how often children make and consider discoveries like this and nobody notices.





31 comments:

  1. That's quite an amazing discovery for a three month old.

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    1. I wonder if more of this happens that we don't notice, though.

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  2. Great story about your son. Your knitting group sounds like so much fun!

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    1. The group really is nice, a weekly party, really.

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  3. Thanks for explaining the difference between bandweaving and krokbragd. I had them hopelessly confused.

    Wonderful story about HS and the shadows. We underestimate the very young. Their brains are working overtime, trying to make sense of this huge world.

    Chris from Boise

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    1. I caused the confusion. Fortunately you won't have to take a quiz any time soon.
      I agree, even the youngest baby is working all the time to figure out this big place he's suddenly found himself in, and the people, too.

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  4. Is the Thinker wondering what was once in that box?

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    1. Wondering if schrodinger's cat might be involved.

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  5. makes me hungry. It sounds like a Norwegian baked good.

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    1. Some sort of crusty bread, maybe with cherry jam!

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  6. Brilliant baby! Of course.
    Sounds like a very good day at knitting group. Did other people have stories about cats as home nurses?

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    1. Several people had cat stories about home nursing! They're caring animals to the people they take on.

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  7. Thanks for more photos, the finishing with all those ends being woven back into krokbragd seems like a lot of extra work...but I always have hated that part of doing multiple colored patterns in knitting also.

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    1. The finishing is why it's better to weave big horizontal pieces, blankets, etc, in krokbragd. I haven't done knitted color work in a longtime, not a fan.

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  8. That man's weaving is amazing - such thin threads and so intricate. How nice that you have such a great group to visit with each week.

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    1. He's a master weaver. Even processing the fleece is a special skill -- too fine for most processing mills.

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  9. Thank you for the further info re the differences in the weaving types. I figured there were differences but I couldn't see them. I'd surely hate having to weave in all those ends! Ends are NOT my friends.
    As always I enjoy hearing about your group and seeing all the great projects they're producing. I discovered recently that there might be a small group meeting at our local library too, but I suspect, like most things of that sort in this town, it will be for the elite...whether that be in the skills themselves or the clique-y sense where outsiders are looked down upon. There are so many groups in this town that aren't very welcoming.

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    1. I'm sorry your group isn't so promising. Maybe try it once and see? It's nice to have a group if you find a congenial one. Do you still see Sue (?) from the old cqteers?

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    2. CQTeers seemed to fall by the wayside when Irene died and I haven't seen Sue since then.

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    3. It's Irene's birthday today, so I guess that's why cqteers came to mind.

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  10. A Jack Russell shows up in your knitting group talk! What not? 😉 The weaver looks like he would be fun to know.

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    1. Jrts show up anywhere they want! I think he's a nice guy, very funny, too, doesn't take himself too seriously.

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  11. I'm sure babies are constantly analyzing the world in ways that no one else can fully appreciate. After all, by the time they're ready to talk, they already know so much!

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    1. I agree, and these moments are so fleeting, they're easily missed.

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  12. that's a cool story about Handsome Son. And I love your weaving fobs!

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  13. They both seem like fun things fun ways to make stuff. Thanks for explaining the differences.

    Agree with you on the pantry ready tomatoes. ALDI used to sell an organic tomato tin that I enjoyed. Those at least last I looked went away So I tried the newer store brand. My fave are the tetra packs however long out of my price range.

    Also agree so many things to make with them. For the price I'll rebuy this particular can again. Unless it goes over 2 bucks Then I'm out.

    Wishing you a yummy week, Boud.

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    1. The canned diced tomatoes which I can get without salt, are becoming a staple around here. I agree about price ranges, though. It has to be worth it.

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  14. That blue/ecru jacquard is amazing.

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