Saturday, November 18, 2023

More winnowing, friendships

In the  course of looking for other things, I came across more winnowing fodder -- fabrics. This includes the rest of those donated sheets I didn't use because they're mauve, which I don't like, though I did make skirts and a robe from the rest, and a bunch of sari and other fabrics, some with bling,  left over from projects.

Due to be picked up today. I hope it works out for this taker, because earlier their schedule fell apart and they missed the art bag, but were very courteous about keeping me informed.

I'm trying to be realistic about how much I can use these days and what  items can go to better hands. It's not easy, to be honest. It's not about the stuff, it's about saying goodbye to the plans for it. Well, that's why parting with things is hard, not exactly breaking news. It's easier when it goes to nice people.

And having finished all my other reading, I'm now kindling this

I do like Weir's narrative style, and I think her historical settings are pretty accurate. Seymour's the Queen who died after giving birth, just to situate her in the Henry story. 

It's possible that kindling is why I'm not getting on with stitching, hence the freecycled fabric remnants..

I've been thinking about kinds of friendship lately, largely because a rl friend is going through some sad times with family illness, and experiencing some of what I did in a similar situations.

There are people who will drop you, heck, Andy's nurses used to tell me of partners who were abandoned when they got sick, but even friends might do that. They can't handle it even at second hand. 

Then there are people who hang in, very kind and helpful. Then when things start to look up for you, they go away. They're better equipped at having the upper hand, I think, and don't know how to navigate a more even relationship. 

And there are what I call activity friends, who want to share a group or activity, but not want any contact outside of it. 

All this is just part of the tapestry of life, nothing bad about it. But it took me so long to grasp this, that I've been disappointed quite a bit,  expecting to buy eggs at the hardware store, so to speak.

I do think it's a mistake to think your real friends are the people who support you in hard times. I think your real friends are those who are supportive and happy for you when things are going well. That's not easy, considering how fast envy can get into the picture.

Anyway, a few musing thoughts, and I'd welcome yours, too. I learn a lot from your comments, thank you.

Happy day, everyone, oh, I just found out we're doing Thanksgiving on Wednesday next week, Handsome Son's day off. He usually works Thanksgiving. This is the nearest we've come in recent years to the official day.

So enjoy your day, even if it's not on the national schedule.





28 comments:

  1. Where there are close emotional bonds, I feel there is an obligation to provide care, comfort and support when needed. I recently heard of a shocking case about a friend of a friend. She had a terminal diagnosis and arranged for medically assisted death. A week before that date, her long-time partner kicked her out of the family home. She went to stay at her daughter's, postponed her date with the doctor for another week, and saw a lawyer to change her will in an attempt to keep her partner from inheriting anything (I don't know the extent to which, legally, that might be possible but I hope it works.)

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    1. That's not as rare as you might think. I was told a few stories by nurses and aides of people taken to nursing homes by family or partners, who were never seen again. My son's daily visits after work to his dad were the marvel of the nurses in the rehab.

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  2. You are so right about things representing plans that we had which involved them. You are so right. And boy, are you right about friends! Friendship is a very complex human trait, I think. There are so many types of friendships and there are so many types of friends. It's truly hard to categorize them. And honestly, I think that many friendships are purely based on attraction. Is this a person you want to hang out with? Who makes you comfortable enough to really talk with? Whom you trust? There's a lot involved, isn't there?

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    1. I think you're gifted in how to navigate friends, judging from the connections you keep.

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  3. It's just that you don't really have a lot of good friends... really friends who are happy with you and also grieve with you and are there at the right moment, namely when they are really needed.
    I think trusting and loving yourself is a requirement. Then you can do the same for others... and for a friend, that includes lots of shared experiences.
    Thank you - for the thought experiment.
    A hug for you.

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    1. In fact I do have those friends. But they weren't the subject of the blog post. The groups I did refer to are however a feature of American life in a way I didn't experience in growing up in Europe.

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  4. I have had friends over the years, some I would call good friends. Things happen, we change. I am a friendly (mostly) person who has a wall around myself, so usually people only get so far. It is not something that allows a bevy of friendships.

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    1. I think changing circumstances can separate friends, and you can be surprised by people you think you know.

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  5. Have you ever heard the song from The Smiths, "We Hate It When Our Friends Become Successful"? It's funny, but also true! Friendships wax and wane, and as you said, different friendships have different strengths and weaknesses. For me the goal is to appreciate what people give, but not get resentful when they fail to give what I expect -- if that makes sense.

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    1. I agree with that goal, and it's not easy, but seems the grown-up thing!

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  6. Your very good with the winnowing. Yes it’s not the stuff that’s hard to give away. It’s the dream of the project. That’s why I love the audiobooks. Yesterday while working on the trees I was listening to a biography, they told the story of when they lost their two sweet dogs. I could hear it in the authors voice. The pain and the tears he was holding back and I was crying like a baby.
    It makes it even more personal hearing it from the authors themselves
    As for friendship. It’s a mystery to me why we make friends and why we lose them. I guess it’s just life

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    1. Audio books are a terrific modern invention!

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  7. I’ve come to think we have the people in our lives at a certain time for a purpose we don’t often know. We can learn from them and vice versa.

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    1. That's a wonderfully astute observation. Thank you. That makes it easier to reconcile with their departure.

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  8. There is a lot to think about in your musings on friends - particularly the 'friends for activities'. I find being in UK is like you describe American life to Barwitzki. Maybe it is something to do with being the immigrant.

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    1. Now there's an interesting thought. Yes, you have a point worth thinking more about.

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  9. Your thoughts on friends are interesting. And good thoughts from others above, too. It actually makes me wonder what kind of a friend I am. I know I enjoy one on one encounters with somewhat (or very) deep conversations, and if the other person isn't into that, that friendship will not likely grow into anything substantial. And that's okay. The one that I've not ever considered before is the one who "goes away" when all is well again. A few lovely new people reached out to me after my surgery in June, and their kindness was most welcome. At least one is continuing to try to build a friendship, but is not pushy at all. Now that I'm feeling stronger, I am very interesting in seeing where that may go.

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    1. Thank you for adding great thoughts here. It sounds as if you're very balanced in your friendships, and not likely to be dismayed if people eventually withdraw. This is something I aspire to!

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  10. Good thoughts about friendships that I would be incapable of thinking about myself. However, I must say that at very first glance, I missed the comma in your title, so I thought for an instant, that you might be heading in another direction. šŸ˜Š

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    1. Disposing of friends along with stuff?? Too funny. A male friend once said he didn't think men had friends, they had cronies! I wonder if your coffee group is your gang of cronies?

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  11. My children always say that I've got lots of friends but I don't think I'm very good with friends at all. I think of most people as acquaintances. Your classification seems wise.

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    1. Yes, about acquaintances. One of my sociable acquaintances (!) says she has a lot of close and dear acquaintances!

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  12. I like your thoughts on friendship and I agree with them. We've talked about this -- our A-List (the ones you call when you need help, the ones you share your deepest fears or concerns with -- as well as the joys. The ones you keep in touch with, no matter where they are.) The B-List (the ones you might invite to a gathering or have an occasional lunch with or maybe even be part of your group -- but not the "closest" part of your group) and then the C-List, which are the acquaintances. People you like but don't seen often and that's fine. Good when you do, not bad when you don't!

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    1. I have a friend I consider close, who lives close and we're both low contact people! Maybe once a year she shows in person and we have a wonderful heart to heart. We're more in touch on Spoutible than in person.
      Then I have acquaintances I see all the time! I don't think contact, at least for me, is key.

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  13. Reading this made me remember this quote...“People come into your life for a reason, a season, or a lifetime.” (opening line of a poem by Brian Chalker). I've often thought how true that quote is and how often it's been proven right in my life. There are also people who attempt to be your friend but only bring a toxic vibe with them and require more work than the so-called friendship is worth.
    I like what Jeanie said in the comments about A, B and C-list people in your life. I think unconsciously I sort people into those categories as well.

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  14. I find that the amount I see of people isn't the same as their importance in my life, oddly.

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